We discussed: Travels in India, Being a craftsman, Graphic arts, Foil stamping, Book making, Printmaking, Stories of artists selling enough art through social media to make a living, The desire to be financially stable, Dating and relationships with artist and creative people, Artistry and craftsmanship, The concern of return on investment in creating fine art, The difficulty of having time to devote to making artwork, Printmakers are OCD artists, Paper Chase Press, Morgan Conservatory, Dieu Donné , Swoon making paper pulp editions, and Kiki Smith