We discussed: The art engineer, The need for side hustles, New York City is not necessarily the best place for artists, Diversify your income and your career, Class structure in the art world, Artists need to create their own economy, Gentrification, The romantic impression of NYC, You do not need to know how to do everything, just the things you need, I am Nat Geo Photographer, Celebrities that make visual art: Sharon Stone, Jim Carrey, Lucy Liu, George Bush, etc, Racism in the art world, Selling art online, There is a market for everything, Robert Heinecken, The Throne of the Third Heaven of the Nations’ Millennium General Assembly by James Hampton, You have to create the culture that is missing around you, If you do not ask, the answer is always no, Being an expat artist, Lisa Frank, His desire to have his art in Target and Starbucks, The desire to create diverse revenue streams, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Cutie and the Boxer, Song from Romeo and Juliet, Soul Coughing, The Incumbent